Catching up with Joanna Penn: June 27, 2025

Here’s a roundup of recent posts from Joanna Penn that authors might find valuable.

• Interview with Simon Patrick about using ElevenLabs' AI narration for audiobooks 

• Conversation with Matty Dalrymple about pitching and excelling at podcast appearances 

• Discussion with Betsy Lerner about changing genres, mediums, and marketing mindset over the years